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So, i know there's been discussion about this song in the past, but let's go ahead and shift it over here! Wink

My take on the song is that the nararator is a single mother of four kids, Michael, Barbara, Jacqueline, and Sophie.

The song begins within the mother's dream, wherein she discovers that she has cancer so severe that she won't survive, and her best bet is chemotherapy.
In her dream, she says, "chemotherapy is terribly expensive, and i won't survive it, anyway. So i'm going to live the rest of my life richly and to the fullest."

"you know i planned to retire someday
but momma gonna go out in style"

now that all her careful(ly laid) plans are shot to hell, she's going to live grandly.

Once the music sobers up again, she awakens from this cancer/chemo dream with a new outlook on life. She takes her kids on a limo ride and takes the time to appreciate who they are as people, and to love them on a deeper level than just taking care of them. She even sees things she'd missed about her kids before:

"oh my god, Barbara
looks so much like my mom".

So i'd say this song's meaning is similar to that of Ghost of Corporate Future: live today like you've only got today to live. Love the people you love thouroughly, and deeply, because life's too short to worry more about retirement than a joyride with your kids.

This is supported by the fact that the piano and vocals are predominantly somber and depressed, and we all know how Regina likes to flip the tone so that it projects the opposite tone from the lyrical message. (2.99 cent blues, folding chair, imo, and the infamous Belt)

On the other hand, some people say that the song starts off in reality, then the mother dreams the car ride, meaning that in reality, she is dying, and the car ride is her farewell to her children before they are adopted and she passes on.
the only beefs i have with this are, 1: the first line is "i had a dream." so it's established that the beginning is all imagined. And it can then be assumed that everything is dreamed, up until, "when i woke up, the kids were being quiet."
2, i think this is a dream because of the absurdity of the beginning's content: "crispy benjamin franklin came over and babysat my kids" sounds very dreamy, while the second verse makes more sense. as well as the fact that she is being treated as a second-class citizen, her boss and Benjamin Franklin discussing her well-being with the doctor behind closed doors. Sounds like a little kid with an illness, whose parents discuss with the doctor what the next steps will be in treatment. But she's a single mom with a retirement plan! i think in reality she would have more say in these proceedings.

i think this song was actually written with a duality in mind, maybe it's suppposed to be able to swing both ways. (according to my theory, the doctor from her dream is driving her cab, and she doesn't seem surprised in the least, the way he's mentioned as an observation; a sheer statement of fact. the way strange things can be perceived within dreams..)

ok. once again, i talked too much. Sorry!

Thoughts?


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
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*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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Very good interpretation. Big Grin

I'm the one who thinks that she's really dying. Though that being just a dream from which she wakes up and appreciates life more is so much more beautiful and not sad. But I can't help it.
My interpretation: She's a single mother of four and she's dying from cancer. She's also financially worried about her kids...what will happen to them when she dies. She has a dream in which everything is just fine.
"Crispy Benjamin Franklin came over and baby-sat all four of my kids" meaning everything will be ok, she has the money that will take care of them. And in her dream the doctor tells her that she'll get healthy whether or not she takes the chemo. I love it how she uses Crispy Benjamin Franklin as the money that takes care of everything...her kids and her health.
When the chorus starts that's going back to reality where everything is not ok. She knows that she's dying and she refuses to have chemotherapy and chooses to spend one of her last moments with her kids in a special way. Basically, she's going out in style.
Though I'm still confused on some parts, everything could be a dream and only the chorus is reality..
 
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^^Your interpretation makes sense, too, Rinoa! how confusing. I love the Benjamin Franklin thing, too. it's really clever.

it seems that, no matter how you look at it, this song has dreams and reality mixed quite thoroughly.
Do you think this is significant to the song? Maybe, in learning that she's dying, her life takes on a dreamlike quality. (i'm scrambling here haha)


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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Dreams are definitely significant. I do think ( what you said earlier ) that this song was meant to go in different directions.

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Originally posted by Be like the water, people.:
Maybe, in learning that she's dying, her life takes on a dreamlike quality. (i'm scrambling here haha)


That's interesting, everything's possible. Maybe we're just diving into her subconscious where reality and her desires and everything are mixed.
 
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Maybe we're just diving into her subconscious where reality and her desires and everything are mixed
^^brilliant! i love that! it suits the song so well! that adds a new dimention. It's not just "here she's awake... and now she's asleep". Everything kind of blends /because/ this whole scenario is being seen through the mother's eyes, and from her head, in a way. Because, if a third party were telling the story, then it would go, "she had a dream that her kids were taken care of, though she was dying. then she woke up, and realized that she needed to start really living, so she did. The end" But things aren't so black and white for her, and i don't think we're supposed to decide for sure whether she's really, truly sick, or if the dream that she had cancer just really affected her in a profound way...


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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I really like what you two have said about the song... I agree with Rinoa, that the woman is actually dying. The events of the dream are consistent with the reality of her life, with a few lines blurred (the inexplicable of the doctor in the dream as a chauffeur in her real life). And while the characters in the dream tell her that she'll "be okay anywaay" (representing the false hope she gets thrown at her constantly in her everyday life perhaps?) she knows that she is dying. This seems apparent in the vocal irony of "And I smiled 'cause I'd known that all the while..."

In her frail emotional state, the narrator (now in that blurred dream/reality state you guys were talking about) weighs her options. She is fed up with a therapy she knows is almost completely ineffective, ("this shit") and chooses to die with dignity while offering her children (for whom she clearly has great love) an experience they otherwise may not ever have: a limousine ride.

My favorite thing about this song is the way regina conveys the mother's pain in knowing this is her last day with her children in contrast to her children's seeming inability to grasp the situation. ("Jacquelyn was being such a big girl with her cup of tea looking out of the window...") Heart-wrenching.


- "You peer inside yourself..."
 
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i could see where she could be dying, but i still don't think she is. (maybe that's just too depressing an interpretation)

i agree that the kids are oblivious, it's to her new outlook on life, rather than to her impending death.. i mean, the kids are old enough to drink tea, talk, and work the radio. i think they'd pick up on the importance of their mother dying


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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Originally posted by Be like the water, people.:
i agree that the kids are oblivious, it's to her new outlook on life, rather than to her impending death.. i mean, the kids are old enough to drink tea, talk, and work the radio. i think they'd pick up on the importance of their mother dying


I don't picture the kids as being older... Maybe its just because of the line "Jacquelyn was being such a big girl," but that could just be the mother's way of keeping intimacy with her kids in her emotional state by applying a sense of innocence to them that they've matured beyond.

The line "something about insurance policies" (despite being mentioned in the dream verse) still makes me think that she's dying.


- "You peer inside yourself..."
 
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i picture the kids to be between 5 and 12 years old-old enough to sense that their mother is upset/worried. i mean, she's got 4 kids. they can't all be too young to sense/udnerstand that she's dying
michael speaks, so he's at least 3, and there are meanies involved, so he's probably closer to about five. Jacqueline can drink tea, so she's at least 7 or 8 (btw, does anyone else find it odd that she's drinking tea in a car? i always picture a little girl with a teacup and saucer lol)...

anyhoo, my point was that the kids can't be totally innocent/oblivious to her illness... why was it important how old the kids are, again? lol

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The line "something about insurance policies" (despite being mentioned in the dream verse) still makes me think that she's dying


why couldn't she have dreamed that? if she could dream that "crispy benjamin franklin" babysat her kids, i don't see why a discussion of the insurance (with Benjamin Franklin, mind you!) would be off-limits to her dream...


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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whoah. i've always interpreted "crispy crispy benjamin franklin" as like the ghost of benjamin franklin, crispy from being electrocuted by that kite. when i read that Jay Z's song sampling chemo limo was called Crispy Benjamins, it all made sense! and her dreaming that she has the money to take care of the kids and be ok makes so much more sense than the ghost of benjamin franklin. wow. wow wow wow. it all makes sense!
 
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Originally posted by HFLAbob:
whoah. i've always interpreted "crispy crispy benjamin franklin" as like the ghost of benjamin franklin, crispy from being electrocuted by that kite. when i read that Jay Z's song sampling chemo limo was called Crispy Benjamins, it all made sense! and her dreaming that she has the money to take care of the kids and be ok makes so much more sense than the ghost of benjamin franklin. wow. wow wow wow. it all makes sense!

i always thought it was being fried from radiation....
i love reading everyone's interpretations.


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Originally posted by ThisIsHowItWorks:
My favorite thing about this song is the way regina conveys the mother's pain...

I was reading this thread, thinking about everyones interpretations, and when I read this part of your post, ThisIsHowItWorks, I was shocked for a moment. It's not that I forgot that we were talking about Regina and her lyrics, it's just... this song is so well done, I just don't think of Regina when I think of this song... it's weird. Does anyone else know what I mean? Maybe for another song?


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^^totally, Raph! that's happened to me with Us, Laughing With, Small Town Moon, and probably others. It's like the songs have a great charm like all of Regina's work, yet for some reason, you don't identify them as "regina spektor" songs. it's not all the time, just on occasion. Especially if i'm on a listening binge for a single song, you know?

i've never really thought about that.....

it reminds me of this one morning when i was walking to my economics class, and, as always, i started playing far on my mp3 player. Usually i just scroll to a random song and walk as slow as possible without being late Razzer anyway, so Eet started playing, and immediately i turned it up. i don't know why, but it just felt like everything kind of melted away and i was swept up in the music. i felt like i was floating (and no, i haven't been doing drugs. Roll Eyes ) So... i don't know. that gave me a new appreciation for the song.

random story haha


She won't make a sound, alone in this fight with herself and the fears whispering if she stands, she'll fall down.

So stand in the rain...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*runs across room spraying Glade*
"Ow! Ow!"
My eyes smell like Raspberries!"
 
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Another one of my favourite songs. Just so beautiful and sad. I like the comments here, and like that Regina's songs always spark conversation, without necessarily having a 'right' answer.

I just want to point out something possibly of relevance - in a lot of mythology, 'going west' is a metaphor for death/going to heaven, which might explain the line
quote:
"I said "sir let's just go west"

HOWEVER, west also has different meanings, especially when you're in New York (or the east coast of Australia, as I am). So it also has a connotation of being a place that's different, and also more free. Also possibly towards the desert.

As far as the two dreams, I get blown away that there are two distinct types of dreams - the ones that are like reality but only with more hope - ie when she's talking with her doctor and boss - and then the limousine dream, which even the dreamer knows is fantasy.

The limousine dream to me definitely echoes death dreams in movies and literature (sorry I can't think of any examples more than 'Sid and Nancy' at the moment), but it's ambiguous whether the narrator is actually dying, or she's only dreaming about her fear of death.

Anyway, the line:
quote:
he said "the truth is you'll be ok anyway"
had me crying when I heard it properly for the first time - not good when you're walking through the city with headphones on!


* * *
"Who would write such a song?!"

We beat them up against each other...
We struck them hard against each other...
We struck them so hard, so hard, until they sparked

 
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Originally posted by davidh:

I just want to point out something possibly of relevance - in a lot of mythology, 'going west' is a metaphor for death/going to heaven, which might explain the line [QUOTE]"I said "sir let's just go west"


That's very interesting! Thanks for raising that point. There are many different implications that could be taken from the idea of the woman telling the limo driver she's ready to die. The 'just' in "Sir let's just go west" connotes a sort of resignedness, rather than firm sureness... So it's like she's accepted that she's going to die, but only in the sense that she knows it's inevitable.

This song seems to be full of contradictions.


- "You peer inside yourself..."
 
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